How on Earth is Hannity saying this?
June 10, 2007 by admin
Filed under Questions and Answers
lilcapo2003 asked:
On his show tonight (8/18) and I’m sure many other times, he said that every government form of healthcare has failed. He said its failed in Canada, Britain, and in France…
First off, all three have different systems. Canada has a single payer system, in Britain, the government actually employs the doctors, nurses, etc. (not the case in Canada), and France has a mix of government run healthcare, but also has a large portion of private insurers. France strongly regulates the healthcare industry in pricing of meds, treatment, etc., even for private hospitals. The WHO, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, and the Commonwealth Fund have all stated that France has the best healthcare in the world! Every one of them has unequivocally said France has the best results with terminal illness, best access to treatment, and overall the best quality of care for their citizens… and they pay half of what we do!!! How can anyone believe Hannity and other conservatives when they say all of these programs are the same and all have failed?
On his show tonight (8/18) and I’m sure many other times, he said that every government form of healthcare has failed. He said its failed in Canada, Britain, and in France…
First off, all three have different systems. Canada has a single payer system, in Britain, the government actually employs the doctors, nurses, etc. (not the case in Canada), and France has a mix of government run healthcare, but also has a large portion of private insurers. France strongly regulates the healthcare industry in pricing of meds, treatment, etc., even for private hospitals. The WHO, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, and the Commonwealth Fund have all stated that France has the best healthcare in the world! Every one of them has unequivocally said France has the best results with terminal illness, best access to treatment, and overall the best quality of care for their citizens… and they pay half of what we do!!! How can anyone believe Hannity and other conservatives when they say all of these programs are the same and all have failed?
http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/10949-real-health-care-reform-universal-single-payer.html
Give GENUINE answers. Not stupid name calling I would like to hear some real arguments on why Hannity is right.
Everythings peachy: you said the Canadian system is not sustainable… what about ours?????
And hannity is never wrong???
My goodness, trust yourself to think! He is wrong on this one. And my question was in regard to France in most part and how he made them out to be the same.
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Rob L on Mon, 11th Jun 2007 1:42 am
Hannity+Reality=Implosion.
everythingspeachy2000 on Tue, 12th Jun 2007 6:17 am
EASY..it is the TRUTH! Get educated…..
As President Obama and his Democrat-controlled Congress try to force healthcare reform on an American population largely pleased with the current system, our neighbors to the north are actually considering improving their structure by — wait for it!!! — welcoming additional competition from private insurers.
I kid you not.
Within hours of the Obama administration saying that it might consider a reform package without a government option, the Canadian Press inconveniently reported the following:
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The incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association says this country’s health-care system is sick and doctors need to develop a plan to cure it.
Dr. Anne Doig says patients are getting less than optimal care and she adds that physicians from across the country – who will gather in Saskatoon on Sunday for their annual meeting – recognize that changes must be made.
“We all agree that the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize,” Doing said in an interview with The Canadian Press. [...]
[Dr. Robert Ouellet, the current president of the CMA] has been saying since his return that “a health-care revolution has passed us by,” that it’s possible to make wait lists disappear while maintaining universal coverage and “that competition should be welcomed, not feared.”
In other words, Ouellet believes there could be a role for private health-care delivery within the public system.
Oh my! Canada’s government-run healthcare system is in a state of disarray, so much so that they’re considering increasing competition by allowing folks to buy private insurance.
That’ll surely help Obama’s cause!
But here’s the money quote:
“(Canadians) have to understand that the system that we have right now – if it keeps on going without change – is not sustainable,” said Doig.
“They have to look at the evidence that’s being presented and will be presented at (the meeting) and realize what Canada’s doctors are trying to tell you, that you can get better care than what you’re getting and we all have to participate in the discussion around how do we do that and of course how do we pay for it.”
It’s going to be absolutely delicious to see how this gets reported by Obama-loving media in the next 24 hours.
Stay tuned.
by the way…HANNITY IS NEVER WRONG…his facts are checked and double checked…it is COMBS who had nothing in his head.!
And of course the libs don’t like hearing the truth…that is the problem. If you don’t live in their denial everything is a lie. The truth is…NOTHING this administration has said or done is TRUTH or a SUCCESS. NAME ONE!
Obamanable Faux Man on Fri, 15th Jun 2007 3:36 am
They are failing…
They’re met w/ a cross-road b/c they can’t stabilize the rapid increase in costs from people abusing the system:
1. Ration Care
2. Increase Taxes
A. Canada injected hundreds of billions of dollars into their system last year to keep hospitals open — they called it “stimulus”.
B. The UK is entertaining a two-tier system – NHS + HMO’s. The HMO’s cover the holes presented by NICE, the rationing board in the UK.
C. Australia will be insolvent w/in 5 years.
D. France — Don’t know…judging from the trend, I can imagine it’s on its way to high costs and reduced quality if it’s not already there.
Domestically?
1. Medicare – 36 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities. It currently pays hospitals 64% of their obligation — you and I pick up the tab for the 36% shortfall. They’re cutting that reimbursement rate by another 21% by the end of the year. Rations Care.
2. Medicaid – 35 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities.
3. Medi-CAL – bankrupt
4. Oregon’s System – bankrupt
5. Mass.’s System – bankrupt
6. Hawaii’s System – bankrupt
7. TRIcare – Already being reformed (www. cbo. gov)
8. VAcare – hit and miss…I hear some good things but also hear about slow authorizations and amputations. Bureaucracies increase inefficiencies.
Can the Government run a system? Yes. But not well — they’re all in the red or heading that way.
If we’re to reform, which 99.9999% of people think we should do now, we need to address costs first. The bills circulating in Congress don’t do that. They’re short-term solutions (patches) and it allows us to push this problem down the line to our kids. What are the unfunded liabilities for ANY of these programs? Nobody knows. We’re all assuming a decision based on a 10-year estimate. Is that wise to make a long-term decision on a short-term estimate? Of course not. It’ll essentially be our kids’ Medicare/Medicaid/Medi-CAL/Soc. Security (13 trillion unfunded liabilities) etc. etc..
It’s selfish and unethical to pass a program that will leverage our future, let alone our kids’ future. We’re already overextended.
megan on Mon, 18th Jun 2007 10:21 am
Hannity works for the corporate machine and tows the party line as dictated by Rupert Murdoch who wants to throw American democracy off the rails.
Bob Loblaw on Thu, 21st Jun 2007 10:52 am
Hannity rarely uses the facts. Unfortunately he is listened to way to often. If people would take the time, like you did, to check his facts they would stop paying attention to him and others like him (both Conservative and Liberal). Commentators are not known for their fact-checking abilities.
appalachian american on Sun, 24th Jun 2007 11:49 am
you don’t need 5 answers.it’s the truth,all you have to do is listen to the bbc and they talk about it all of the time.it is common knowledge.all you have to do is look and stay off those left wing websites.
Your Assistant on Mon, 25th Jun 2007 1:05 pm
I do agree with you. It is someone making money off of people who are dying for leadership wrapped around a flag that they know nothing about. It is the cruelest form of all tyranny and that is the deception of a group or culture for monetary gain.
That is Hannity
That is Rush
That is Beck, but he is actually psychotic.
That is even O’Reilly
The truth will one day make us free and if 79% of fox viewers think that the government is setting up death panels you know that there are a lot of true, real life, idiots out there.
That is my answer.
Your assistant
Great question.
jwoody88 on Wed, 27th Jun 2007 10:31 pm
Well if your source is the Atlantic Free Press, a self described “progressive” news website, no wonder you’re confused.
Ask anyone in the UK or Canada what they think about it and stop using things like the Atlantic Free Press to formulate your opinions.
Illek on Thu, 28th Jun 2007 4:49 am
He’s trying to support his views…plain and simple.
He’s leaving out information because he either doesn’t know it is does not feel it is important to his view.
I’m inclined to believe that he doesn’t understand the differences, but I only have my opinions to base that upon.
as.erwin on Thu, 28th Jun 2007 7:18 pm
In all three cases… GOVERNMENT EMPLOYED officials have come to the Unites States for treatment…
The most recent was Linda Stronach, former liberal member of the Canadian Parliament and Cabinet member…
Mark on Sat, 30th Jun 2007 10:36 am
For arguments sake lets forget about what Sean Hannity said for a second.
We fought a war to gain our independence from Britain. We didn’t like the way they did things we wanted to be independent from them.
Why do you libs have the sudden urge to emulate them on everything?
Who Flung Poo? on Tue, 3rd Jul 2007 8:35 am
I wonder if France spends money on
$107,000 to study the sex life of the Japanese quail.
$1.2 million to study the breeding habits of the woodchuck.
$150,000 to study the Hatfield-McCoy feud.
$84,000 to find out why people fall in love.
$1 million to study why people don’t ride bikes to work.
$19 million to examine gas emissions from cow flatulence.
$144,000 to see if pigeons follow human economic laws.
Funds to study the cause of rudeness on tennis courts and examine smiling patterns in bowling alleys.
$219,000 to teach college students how to watch television.
$2 million to construct an ancient Hawaiian canoe.
$20 million for a demonstration project to build wooden bridges.
$160,000 to study if you can hex an opponent by drawing an X on his chest.
$800,000 for a restroom on Mt. McKinley.
$100,000 to study how to avoid falling spacecraft.
$16,000 to study the operation of the komungo, a Korean stringed instrument.
$1 million to preserve a sewer in Trenton, NJ, as a historic monument.
$6,000 for a document on Worcestershire sauce.
$10,000 to study the effect of naval communications on a bull’s potency.
$100,000 to research soybean-based ink.
$1 million for a Seafood Consumer Center.
$57,000 spent by the Executive Branch for gold-embossed playing cards on Air Force Two.
When they stop ridiculous things like this, we’ll talk.
BabaBright on Wed, 4th Jul 2007 5:41 am
Regarding France, didn’t a whole bunch of seniors die a few years ago due to a heatwave and the fact that the whole country went on vacation for that month, leaving no doctors or nurses to handle the issue? They might only be best eleven months of the year. There are ongoing controversies about the effectiveness of the UK and Canadian systems.
The reason that France pays half of what we do is because they basically steal from other countries who do proper research and development by regulating pricing. We pay for the R&D, France steals it by forcing companies to sell it at cost, or going generic. If every country follows this method, medical innovation would slow to a crawl.
matthew c on Fri, 6th Jul 2007 7:41 pm
If you really look into it you also see how all of those systems have gone way over budget and people’s care is severely rationed. In Canada a person with cancer may have to wait up to 2 years or more for their first test to see if they have cancer (in the U.S. it could take 2-4 weeks for the same test). In that time they probably will die. There are just too many patients and not enough doctors because no one wants to be a doctor. It pays hardly anything considering the amount of schooling and skill it takes to be a doctor. All those systems take a really long time for care because of all the paper work ( paper work will always be there in any government run system) this all bogs down the system.
Brian on Sun, 8th Jul 2007 11:51 am
Because the systems in all those countries are on the brink of failure. All three governments are scrambling to save them..
wisemancumth on Wed, 11th Jul 2007 7:40 am
why do you waste out time discribing there healthcare systems when they are ALL government run systems. How they are different is irrelivant.
France, England and Canada are states. The United States is 50 states. National healthcare is not unconstitutional in those country’s Why doesn’t the EAU have national healthcare then? Why not worldwide healthcare?
You just exposed that you dont listen to Hannity or else you would have anticipated my questions.
E on Fri, 13th Jul 2007 12:34 am
Hannity never lets facts get in the way.
older on Sat, 14th Jul 2007 9:34 pm
reading all this is one reason i like fox. it’s not perfect but close to it. in fact i have never heard anything that they couldn’t back up but have heard a few people challenge what was said but all they have to do is email them for an explanation. i’ll take fox